Obito nodded and began explaining the situation with the Akatsuki organization, "Minato-sensei, in the future, I collect all nine tailed beasts, start the Fourth Great Ninja War, and get defeated by Naruto—you already know about this."
"But there's a problem here. I don't know if you've ever thought about it?"
"How could I, alone, capture so many tailed beasts?"
Minato smiled and said, "Of course, I've thought about it."
"It was the Akatsuki who helped you capture the tailed beasts."
"Their leader, if I remember correctly, Kakashi once mentioned, was called Nagato, right? He possessed Madara's Rinnegan, no wonder he could accomplish something like this."
Obito said, "Minato-sensei, actually, the founders of this organization were three people: Yahiko, Nagato, and Konan."
"And... at the beginning, the leader was not Nagato, but Yahiko."
Minato was surprised.
"The one with the Rinnegan wasn't even the leader? Yahiko must have been quite extraordinary!"
Obito nodded and smiled, "Minato-sensei, Yahiko was very similar to you. Although he may not have been the strongest among the three, he was the sun in everyone's hearts."
"It was his belief in peace that moved people, bringing light and hope to Amegakure. That's why he founded Akatsuki during the darkest of times."
Minato couldn't help but admire him, "This Yahiko sounds like a great person. If there were a chance, I'd have liked to be friends with him."
"But why did the leadership of the Akatsuki change hands? And why did they end up helping you capture tailed beasts?"
"Seems like you did something bad again."
Obito couldn't help but feel embarrassed.
With guilt, he said, "The downfall of Akatsuki was indeed partly my fault. It was I who ambushed and killed all the members of Akatsuki who went to rescue Nagato, Konan, and Yahiko. I made Nagato fully experience pain."
"So later, he wanted the great nations to feel pain as well."
Minato smiled bitterly, "As expected, many of the future's misdeeds are caused by you, Obito."
Obito, however, shook his head, "Minato-sensei, Akatsuki's downfall was partly due to me, but not entirely. Aren't you curious why Akatsuki's members were going to rescue their leader in the first place?"
Minato smiled, "Of course, I'm curious. So this is just like the Uchiha Clan's massacre—you were simply taking advantage of the situation? There was another mastermind behind it?"
Obito laughed, "Exactly. Minato-sensei, take a guess—who was the mastermind behind this?"
Initially, Minato wouldn't have guessed. But after Obito's hint, a name surfaced in his mind.
Minato smiled bitterly, "Danzo again?"
Obito nodded, "Danzo thought that an organization dedicated to peace was too dangerous and would interfere with his plans. So he sent people to Amegakure, killed many of Hanzo's men, and framed Akatsuki for it."
"Under Danzo's manipulation, Hanzo began to fear Akatsuki. During a peace negotiation between the two sides, Hanzo suddenly turned hostile, kidnapped Konan, and forced Yahiko to impale himself on Nagato's kunai."
"Nagato personally killed his closest friend and experienced indescribable pain. That's why he changed completely. He began to follow Yahiko's original philosophy, to become the god of a new world and achieve peace through overwhelming power."
For a moment, Minato was silent.
'So, another person went to extremes because of the death of a close friend?'
'And once again, Konoha's advisor, Danzo, played a significant role in pushing them down that path.'
Minato couldn't understand, 'Danzo always claims to be acting for Konoha's sake, but why does he enjoy breaking people's spirits so much?'
'He had crushed White Fang's spirit and driven him to suicide.'
'Now, he had destroyed the psyche of outsiders as well, turning what should have been Konoha's allies against them.'
'Isn't the Will of Fire about peace?'
Ironically, Konoha's second-in-command found peace-driven organizations from other villages too dangerous.
Did he even know who his enemies and friends were?
Minato felt his desire to kill Danzo growing stronger and stronger.
Minato sighed, "Sigh, in that timeline, Konoha had a great chance to establish relations with an organization that believed in peace."
Obito looked at Minato and smiled, "Minato-sensei, it wasn't just a great chance. If Danzo hadn't meddled, Akatsuki would have naturally been Konoha's ally."
Minato was stunned, "Why do you say that?"
Obito said, "Because these three people had a connection to you."
Minato was curious, "A connection?"
Obito didn't intend to keep him in suspense.
"They were Jiraiya-sama's disciples from his time in Amegakure. They should be a few years younger than you, so they were technically your junior disciples."
Minato was taken aback, "My junior disciples?"
Then he remembered, Jiraiya-sensei had been searching for the Child of Prophecy. If he had encountered someone with the Rinnegan, it was only natural he would take them in as disciples.
'So Danzo had indirectly killed my junior disciples too?'
'Danzo… deserves death!'
But then, Minato realized something extremely serious.
He furrowed his brows.
"Naruto told me that in the end, the Akatsuki killed Jiraiya-sensei. Could it be that Nagato did it himself?"
If that were true, then Nagato was no different from Obito.
Obito gave a bitter smile, "Minato-sensei, compared to my monstrous actions, honestly, even though Nagato killed Jiraiya-sama, he can't really be blamed for it."
Minato was puzzled, "Why? Did Jiraiya-sensei not treat Nagato well? If he treated him well, how could he kill his own teacher?"
Obito first said, "How could Jiraiya-sama not treat his own disciples well?"
But then he continued, "However, Minato-sensei, imagine this. If Jiraiya-sensei weren't from Konoha, but from another village, and one day he infiltrated Konoha to steal its most classified information, would you stop him?"
Minato was stunned.
He couldn't imagine such a scenario, and in the end, he could only smile bitterly, "Maybe I would stop him... but I wouldn't kill Jiraiya-sensei."
Obito pressed further, "And what if you let him go, but he kept coming back? What if he not only endangered your life but also Kushina's?"
Minato instinctively replied, "Impossible. Jiraiya-sensei would never harm Kushina."
Obito said, "Not directly, no."
"But what if Jiraiya-sama infiltrated Konoha before Kushina's childbirth and discovered that she was the Nine-Tails' jinchuriki?"
"You stop him, and let him go. But he persists and finds out that a jinchuriki's seal weakens during childbirth."
"You stop him again, and let him go. But he keeps pushing until he learns the exact date of Kushina's labor and insists on sending this information back to his village?"
Minato suddenly shivered.
If that were the case, Kushina would be in danger.
And he himself didn't know what he would do in that situation.
Obito spoke slowly, "So, Minato-sensei, at that time, Nagato was the leader of Amegakure. Jiraiya-sama sneaked in, was discovered, but didn't leave. Instead, he kept probing for secrets and eventually uncovered the truth about the Rinnegan and Akatsuki."
"In such a situation, I think Nagato's actions were understandable. After all, Nagato had his own Kushina. He had his own Rin."
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